Lewisham's new pool and leisure centre: The Glass Mill

Lewisham Council writes:


The new flagship leisure centre being built in Lewisham town centre is to be called the Glass Mill.

The name was chosen following the submission of ideas from Lewisham residents and because it reflects part of Lewisham’s history while referring to the striking glass façade that will front the new building.

The new leisure centre is being built near the site of the old Lewisham Bridge Mill – one of many mills that used to exist in Lewisham powered by the Ravensbourne when it was a much larger stream than today. Although during its lifetime, Lewisham Bridge Mill was used mostly for grinding corn, in the middle on the 18th century it was used by the famous glass cutter Thomas Betts for the manufacture of chandeliers and decanters.

Betts was one of the first, if not the first person in England, to use water power for glass cutting. The mill was demolished in 1935.

The centre will include a competition pool (eight lanes, 17 x 25 metres, moveable floor at the deep end to allow additional water area for teaching), a teaching pool (20 x 8 metres with moveable floor), two dance/exercise/aerobics studios, a fitness suite with 100 stations, a health spa, a climbing wall, a crèche and a café.

39 comments:

Brockley Kipper said...

not a bad name . . any indication of when it will open?

mp said...

I passed it the other day and now that the works are almost done I'm amazed how ugly it looks. the poor design and cheap materials can only compete with the other pile of crap outside brockley station.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean works almost done, they haven't even got the structure finished yet.

Anonymous said...

Why reply to an architecture critic who uses the phrase 'pile of crap'? Hardly insighful.

Ali Afro said...

From the link in the article:

"The flagship leisure centre is due to open to the public in the first half of 2013"

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or does it look a bit 'Elephant & Castle'?

Anonymous said...

Swim on glided splinters?

shame said...

Anon at 12.37 - just what I was thinking...

Lady in the Well said...

Well I'm excited about it if nobody else is. Ladywell Pool and Deptford Wavelengths are a health hazard they are so unhygenic.

Cptn. Webb said...

Lady in the Well what makes you think that this will be better managed?

Anonymous said...

Yes there were lots of mills. No, none of them milled glass. In the future everyone will call it 'the pool opposite the station.

max said...

I have to say that since the change of management Ladywell Pool is a lot cleaner.
(They have managed to make the pool uncomfortably warm quite a few times though.)
Cleansiness is about management, it's not something that a apecific building either has or not.

Anyway, rather than using a movable floor to make the main pool shallower to "to allow additional water area for teaching" what I would like to hear is that that the floor will be lowered in the teaching pool during lane swim time so that all plodders go there and you virtually add a couple of lanes and ease overcrowding and allow more people to swim regularly there.

MikeSE13 said...

Why oh why are you all beating down on this?
It's not even built, and I can guarantee that you will at least use it once. Not every swimming pool is going to be at perfect, But this is down to the public as well as management. If you wore the shoe bags instead of wearing your size 8 Hunters into the changing room, take your blister plasters (caused by said Hunters) and put them in the bin instead of the floor, we could have a higher level of cleanliness. The pool in Bromley has inforced shoe bags and the changing rooms although they are small are cleaner than many I have been to. Ladywell has a good level of hygiene but yes the pool could be better. You will all be moaning when we have no amenities at all. Plus it will have a climbing wall and a nice little cafe so you can all sit and enjoy your flat whites. Give it a chance and back it. Anyway, if you don't at least there will be more room for the people who want to.

Lady in the Well said...

Yes you're right, I guess I'm just naively hopeful that it will be better managed and cleaner.

Ladywell seems old and unloved but to be fair I haven't been for a long time, the used sanitary towel in the middle of the changing room floor put me off. Wavelengths seems newer but is just so grimy and slimy and the changing rooms are freezing.

I go to Eltham pool now.

Mondee said...

Well it will be cleaner, at least for a while, by virtue of being new. And the new management are infinitely more efficient than the last bunch of muppets. I think it sounds like a great facility. Some people will never be satisfied but I can't see what there is to complain about. I don't mind the look of it - although the new flats all around it are a disgrace. Ugly and far too high. Of course, many people protested that this would be the case but I was one of the many more who didn't get off their arse at the time and do anything about it, so I don't really feel I can complain about that either.

mp said...

I think it totally looks like a modern version of E&C. I'm sure when they build that obsenity which until now has depressed the whole south London they were animated by the best wishes to build something that the "community" could enjoy...we'll see what will happen with this one in the next few years...
If we want to enjoy modern architecture let's go to west London or some parts of regenerated EAST and see if this one doesn't look like a pile...ops sorry!!!

Brockley Nick said...

E&C was built to please car drivers. Result = disfunctional mess.

max said...

I'm sorry this wasn't built as you say "animated by the best wishes to build something that the "community" could enjoy".

This was built to sell the flats above or in proper language as part of a regeneration scheme.

In fact they wanted to make it smaller but we put up a fight and managed to have 8 lanes instead of 6.

Cptn. Webb said...

One of the cleanest pools I ever swam in was a municipal indoor pool in Majorca.

Shoes had to be taken off and feet washed before entering the changing area, you had to shower (at the side of the pool observed by the staff) before entering and everyone had to wear a swim hat.

Lady in the Well said...

I went to a pool in Italy where swim hats were compulsory, as were speedos. My huband wasn't allowed in in his baggy brit abroad shorts so pool staff lent him a pair of budgie smugglers. He was mortified.

Anonymous said...

Swim caps are required for the outdoor pool in Moscow (you hair will freeze and break off otherwise) and you enter via tubes...

Willie said...

Can I still piss in the pool?

Anonymous said...

Nick, most people in Brotain who are eligible, drive a car. Stop being a boring Green stereotype, if I wanted that I'd be over at Transpontine.

Anonymous said...

Apologies, "Britain".

Brockley Nick said...

"Nick, most people in Brotain who are eligible, drive a car."

Yes, me too.

"Stop being a boring Green stereotype,"

Stop being a thick Clarkson stereotype, the point is not that cars are a bad thing, it's that designing places to give cars the priority is a bad thing, as the history of Elephant & Castle, Coventry, Birmingham and Lewisham town centre shows. It was a terrible mistake, that blighted town centres and has taken decades trying to repair. We're not there yet. Slowly, big roundabouts and pedestrian subways are being replaced and towns are getting better.

Britain said...

"Apolgies Britain"

Hmmm...no. Not accepted. Please go away, you're lowering the average IQ of SE4

Tressilliana said...

Eligible for what?

Anonymous said...

Driving age, sound of mind and body etc... presumably.

mk said...

"We're not there yet. Slowly, big roundabouts and pedestrian subways are being replaced and towns are getting better."

I'm not so sure. Boris has removed a lot of useful pedestrian crossings in the name of "smoothing traffic flow" (which is now my most hated phrase), as well as rephasing lights giving people less time to cross. Barnet & Newham in particular seem to be saying, "Get in a car, or go away": http://www.transportxtra.com/magazines/local_transport_today/news/?ID=29973

Anonymous said...

But there are areas where traffic flow did need smoothing. It's a service for LONDON, not a service for people sneering on the sidelines with their soy lattes.

Anonymous said...

So what's planned for the current Ladywell Baths?

Turn it into a cinema, with plush eatery?

Anonymous said...

So what's planned for the current Ladywell Baths?

Turn it into a cinema, with plush eatery?

Anonymous said...

That would be amazing.
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/9047435.Campaigners_petitioning_for_cinema_in_Lewisham/

mk said...

But there are areas where traffic flow did need smoothing. It's a service for LONDON, not a service for people sneering on the sidelines with their soy lattes.

"Smoothing" means prioritising cars and getting as many of them through London's roads as possible. And LONDON is a place for people, not motors.

Sydenham Central said...

Wow, what a bunch of negative comments. Totally agree Brockley Nick about town centres getting better.

Urban space planning and design is better now and a sense of history and place is finally getting more recognition.

I think the artists impressions of the pools look good, but then again artists impressions always do. We still don't know what the 'art installation' facade of the pools will look like,, as with all these thigns I"m sure it wont look like the rendering above, they tend to throw these ideas out as they did with all the design for the Olympics only to start again producing something mundane and boring.

Hopefully the finished scheme will live up to the hype in the way that the Forest Hill Pools do.

It's a shame about the 'it won't look nice and shiny like this in 10 years time' hi-rise block behind.

But going back to the hole reason for the post, the name is great. A good idea based on both a sense of history, place and the curent building. Whoever came up with it should be congratulated.

Anonymous said...

no gym?!

or is that a fitness suite?

could do with a squash court too.

And badminton courts.

The Wolf said...

Some of you guys are just a little bit dim...its not even complete and you are slating it.

I tell you what, lets pour government money in an area that actually appreciate it instead of you lot.

but youre right, it doesnt fit in; its probably worth something

Anonymous said...

I recently visited Lewisham after 5 years and was shocked to see this HUGE building being built next to the station, im rather excited about seeing how the project will finish, but i must say i dont think the balconies facing the station will be popular with residents for the little privacy it offers.

Does anyone know HOW MANY flats are being built? My guess would be a couple hundred from the height of the buildings

emily said...

does anyone know when it'll be open for use?

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