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At the risk of sounding sanctimonious I rather hope that Mr Kwei-Armah and the headline artists are giving their talent for free or on an expenses only basis and that any surplus from the ticket sales is going to the Stephen Lawrence Foundation, the Marsha Phoenix Trust or similar. Anything else looks a bit exploitative of a tragic event.
@Tamsin - that is a deeply offensive comment on so MANY levels. Funny how your first thought is of financial exploitation. Obviously u know nothing of the high feelings that tragic and still unsolved incident stirs in this area and how many people it still affects OR the importance of this Memorial. You dont sound sacntimonious - just racist! Happy New Year
oh please, how is the comment racist?
@anon 11.04 - that's possibly the most ridiculous comment I've ever seen on this blog, and I'm including Catman's rants when I say that.
@Tamsin - the ticket prices cover costs and rest goes to charity, but I wish you would check the facts yourself rather than raise wholly unnecessary doubts on this forum. It's not fair to the event organisers to post that sort of comment.
@ Nick - I raised it because it was not apparent from the flyer reproduced or the original post that this was the case. I hedged my comment with apology and expression of what I hoped the situation was and I am glad that the hope is justified. Where should I have "checked the facts"? Apologies if I should have dug around deeper (presumably on the Albany website) but it does still seem a pity that such relevant information is left off the publicity and omitted from the notification sent to you.
@Tamsin - There are lots of non-commercial events promoted here, where we don't specifically mention the charities supported. If you are concerned, ring them and ask them. Or google the event and do some checking. Or, if you really must ask the question, just ask: "Do proceeds go to charity?" and leave it at that. The racism accusation is an unnecessary and unwelcome distraction, but I agree with anon 1104 that your post was offensive and gratuitous.
Wow 30 years ago I am getting OLD. It's poignant to reflect on how the UK has changed & improved on the racial politics front over the years; The riots of the 80s. I remember as a child being absolutely terrified of the National Front, seeing NF daubed on buildings sent shivers through my bones. The term wogs was used often seen, as in "Wogs out" on lamp-posts. Every young black guy had a Stop and Search story to tell. Lewisham played a notable part the Battle of Lewisham in opposing the racial intolerance, interesting bit of social history.Glad I survived it.
I feel Tazmins first remarks were fair and just. Many of us had been asking ourselves the same. It was not made clear this was not a profit making event. The details could have been explained more clearly.As a black woman who in her teens had indeed attended the birthday party held in the house where the fire started. I do not feel Tazmins comments were at all rasicit. Im sure more peolple will attend if it is made clear that as will as a memorial where we can remember. It will also be an opportunity to raise funds.
Why have the last 2 comments mysteriously disappeared?
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Why not provide some transparency instead?
...Says anonymous...I am happy to be transparent, get in touch and I will provide a full answer.If I have to answer questions about why comments get deleted then I have to drag up the issue again - rendering the initial deletion a waste of time. The thread gets dragged off topic again... just like it is being now.
I just find the advice of "email me if you want" a little... passive-aggressive.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Yes, that's a good example.
Yes, that was the joke. I am not sorry at all! ;)
I remember this event very well, and all the controversy. Whatever really happened it was a dreadful incident and deserves to be never forgotten. Some of you might not realise how different the atmosphere was then, particularly in New Cross.
Did they ever find out who was responsible for the fire?
No they never did find out. This was particularly galling. You also have to remember that this was pre Stephen Lawrence case and Macpherson Report and at a time of high racial tension in Lewisham generally with NF Marching around everywhere. The feeling was that this was not a priority case for the police despite the number of people that died. Lewisham took to the streets and marched from New Cross to westminister to no avail. It is important that those who are newer to the area really take a moment to appreciate the sensitivity of this event. It is a very recent and very painful memory for local folk. We all knew someone affected.
No, even though there was a second inquest to redress the procedural and other flaws of the first one the verdict was still open.The IndependentStill the police were then reported as saying that "a case like this is never closed" which is a huge improvement on the attituded 30 years ago.
this is about the march and its subsequent reporting in the mediahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ASlNOnA_E&feature=related
My name is Rex Obano and I am organizing the event Remembering The New Cross Fire 30 Years On. For the record all the participants, contributors, producers and organizers are giving their time and talent for free or on expenses only. I would have loved for this to be a free event, but we have incurred some costs in production, advertising and publicity.All profits will be going to a local charity and I apologize that this was not clear on the flyer and publicity.
Thanks for addressing that point Rex and good luck with the event.
Yes, thanks indeed for the clarification. And apoligies if my initial posting caused offence - it was not intended that way.
Anyone new to the area should check out Lewisham 77 blog, and the pictures of the Lewisham riot.
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